12 Hours Before the Race
In 12 hours (i.e., midnight tonight), the Kokopelli Trail Ride begins. Here are the things that I am thinking about.
Is It OK for a Man to Cry at a Bike Shop?
Yesterday afternoon, I went to Racer’s Cycle Service to pick up The Weapon of Choice (currently outfitted with a suspension fork, by the way — I’m not ready to do this race on a fully rigid bike).
Racer wheeled out the bike, and I immediately noticed something different: a pink Chris King Pretty and Strong headset. Evidently, Fish (we call him Fish because his real name is practically impossible to pronounce) — a guy who worked his way through law school at bike shops — put this on for me as a surprise gift.
I got all choked up. In fact, I’m getting all choked up again right now. I tell you what: I’ve got the best friends there have ever been, in the history of ever. Fish, thanks very much.
The Future
Whenever I’m about to start a race, I find myself thinking about what I’ll be doing exactly one day from that moment. One day from this moment, for example, I will probably be starting the climb up to Beaver Mesa. It’s about a nine-mile climb, if I remember correctly. I’ll be very hot and tired, and will be sick of eating Shot Bloks. I’ll probably be questioning, out loud, why I thought it was a good idea to do this race.
I will also be listening to War and Peace on my iPod. Really. An epic ride deserves an epic story.
Attrition
A few weeks ago, I was staggered at how many of my friends were going to be doing this race with me. Here is the race status of these friends at this moment:
- Rick Sunderlage (not his real name): After cramping up on the White Rim, Rick began to question whether he should do the KTR. Eventually, he came to the conclusion he shouldn’t. I maintain that he should. I grade his bailout with a D+.
- Dug: Dug was never really in, so I can’t say he dropped out. He was, however, briefly hopeful he could make it work. Turns out he needs to watch his kids play soccer that morning. Bailout grade: C.
- Brad: Brad was in until yesterday morning, when he said he had to choose between either doing this race or the Cascade Creampuff. Since he did the Creampuff last year while he’s never tried anything of the magnitude of the KTR, I assert he made the wrong choice: it’s like choosing to see a movie you’ve already seen over a new, more exciting movie, just because you’ve already paid for the tickets to see that movie you’ve seen once before. Bailout grade: B-
- BotchedExperiment: A few days ago, Botched broke out into a painful rash wherever he had applied sunscreen during the White Rim ride. He says it feels just like poison ivy, and he is on all kinds of drugs to reduce swelling and fight pain. Providing this is true, I consider this a valid excuse. Plus, he’s still coming on the trip and acting as the guy who brings the car from the starting point to the finish line. Bailout grade: A
- Kenny: Kenny’s in. Of course Kenny’s in. I will see him at the starting line and at the finish line. That’s pretty much the way it is when you have a fast guy for a friend.
Solitude
So I’ll be riding this 142-mile MTB race in the middle of nowhere by myself. And you know what? I’m very excited to be riding it that way. I’ve been needing some time to myself to think, and this ride will give that to me in spades.
Oh, and also — when I am not listening to War and Peace — I will use some of my Solitude time to listen to lots of Cake.
Nerves
One thing about a race: I always get nervous. Always. Even when it’s a race where my sole objective is to complete (I honestly have no goal for a finishing time), I still get very nervous. I’m nervous right now.
And when I’m very nervous, I go to the bathroom a lot. Which, it turns out, is a very useful reaction. Cuz once you’ve started a race, it’s nice to um, have already gotten everything out of your system.
My Panic List
Long (weeks, usually) before I do any race, I start thinking about the stuff I ought to have with me at the race. Realizing my brain is middle-aged, I no longer try to keep that list of stuff in my head. Instead, I just keep a running list, which I check off as I pack.
I call this my “Panic List.”
Here is what is on my list for this trip. The “to get” list is stuff that I still need to buy. The “to bring” list is stuff I need to pack:
TO GET: Water, Money, Duct tape, Batteries
TO BRING: Shot bloks, Jacket, Honey Stinger Bars, Camelbak bladders (2), Filter, Lights, Extra batteries for lights, multitool, shorts, jersey, arm warmers, knee warmers. helmet, socks, shoes, gloves, glasses, lube, tubes, air cartridges, iPods, GPS, bottles (2), Camelbak, duct tape on seat tube, sunscreen, money, phone
Yeah, knee warmers is on the list. What’s it to ya?
What Did I Forget?
So, here’s a question: What should I have brought that I didn’t? If you list it and it turns out I wish I had it, I’ll acknowledge it in my race report.
OK, it’s 12:08 — just after noon — now. Twelve hours from now I’ll be eight minutes into the race.
Twenty four hours from now, I’ll still be climbing up toward Beaver Mesa, probably staring at that awesome pink headset.
PS: Today’s weight: 157.0
Comment by dave | 05.18.2007 | 10:23 am
This one is usually first on my list….. Advil.
Comment by Bitter (formerly known as Lissee) | 05.18.2007 | 10:24 am
Good luck Fatty! Congrats on the Chris King pink headset!
Lissee
Comment by Brian C | 05.18.2007 | 10:39 am
fish must be one hell of a dude, that gets ME all choked up. good luck my friend.
Comment by Brian C | 05.18.2007 | 10:42 am
TO BRING: Shot bloks, Jacket, Honey Stinger Bars, Camelbak bladders (2), Filter, Lights, Extra batteries for lights, multitool, shorts, jersey, arm warmers, ***KNEE WARMERS***. helmet, socks, shoes, gloves, glasses, lube, tubes, air cartridges, iPods, GPS, bottles (2), Camelbak, duct tape on seat tube, sunscreen, money, phone
now wait a god damn minute…..
Comment by E Fuentes | 05.18.2007 | 10:43 am
El Gordo,
Hmmmmm, for my Classics riders I would suggest two units of packed red blood cells a few hours before the start. I just so happen to have a few “unclaimed” units of O pos, from a rider in your area. Do you need any IV tubing?
At your service,
E Fuentes, MD
Comment by Suzanne@Team Optimistic | 05.18.2007 | 10:50 am
I always have 1/8″ zip ties in my race bag. They come in handy for strapping all kinds of things on the bike. You could probably even use them to keep your knee warmers up.
Comment by SpikeBlue | 05.18.2007 | 10:54 am
A cooler with ice cold beer and gatorade for the finish. And oreos.
Mmmm. Beer and oreos.
And I agree with dave. Advil. Taken before and after the ride.
Comment by barry1021 | 05.18.2007 | 10:55 am
Botched’s excuse is no better than a C, maybe C+. Anyone with his background has the wherewithal to get hold of stuff that can give him a rash anytime he wants. I am calling him out on this.
Knee warmers? KNEE WARMERS?? After putting us throught that yesterday?? I’ve lost all respect. OK it was temporary, it’s back. They had better be minty green like your illustration, tho.
Does anyone have an MTB to Road Adjustment Scale handy?? I know a 142 hilly MTB race is difficult…OK EPIC, but still I need something to convert it to my roadie mentality.
The best epic food for me is still fig newtons-great break from the shot bloks.
b21
Comment by Zinguvok | 05.18.2007 | 10:55 am
Filter as in water filter? Hardcore.
On a 142mi mtb ride, I’d put an M6 and an M5 bolt in between the layers of the duct tape you’re bringing… sucks if the hits you take shake a bottle cage screw or a headset screw out and you can’t find it.
Comment by Boz | 05.18.2007 | 11:01 am
How about a hand gun. No, not to do yourself in when lost and surrounded by dingos or buzzards, but to procure sustanance when you run out of food. I recall you came from a hunting background. Just a thought. Rattle snake over an open fire, nothin’ finer.
Good luck to you and yours, and Kenny, too.
Comment by dug | 05.18.2007 | 11:04 am
i have a converter scale. the ktr sounds like a combo of doing lotoja (206 road miles, 3 mountain passes) and leadville. i’ve done both of them, both hurt a lot, but i’ve also attempted the kokopelli in one day, it tooks us 18 hours, we had dropped a cooler halfway, and it still SUCKED. a lot.
once you’re past about 12 hours, the comparison/adjustment scale doubles. that’s why i say this is same as lotoja and leadville combined. each of those takes between 9 and 12 hours, this takes about 18. but the last six hours are doubled, cuz they’re over the 12 hour mark. thus, elden is about to do the equivalent of dong leadville and lotoja in the same day.
ick. watching kid soccer sounds pretty good right now.
Comment by LanterneRouge | 05.18.2007 | 11:12 am
Chapstick or Carmex or the lip balm of your choice.
Comment by UltraRob | 05.18.2007 | 11:21 am
I think you’re going to wish you had some chamois cream. You’ll want some Endurolytes when you start cramping.
Hopefully you won’t be wishing you had a pump. I don’t carry one and count on the CO2 but too many flats and you know what happens.
Just use water tablets and save the weight of the pump and the time to pump. They don’t taste very good but this is a race. At least the BLM thinks it is and that it requires a permit. Hopefully they won’t be out there to cause problems.
I’ll be riding the KT next week. I’m doing it the easy way and taking 3 days but my trip is about getting away and relaxing not my normal ultra rides. I’m not even fit enough to enjoy something truly long right now although I could probably survive.
Comment by UltraRob | 05.18.2007 | 11:25 am
I guess I had the tire pump on my mind. You only said you’re taking a filter. Assuming it’s for the water maybe it isn’t a pump but some other high tech filter.
Comment by Clydesteve | 05.18.2007 | 11:25 am
Spare masterlink, hunk of chain, & chain breaker if the multitool does not have it. And maybe this is just a roadie thing, I don’t know, but hows about a patch kit? also, since you recently finished converting your hairstyle over to what nature has started, sunblock and/or skull rag for the noggin. Get the kind of sun block that does not drool into your eyes (waterproof) when you sweat. Really. Extra pair of socks.
God bless!
Steve
Comment by Clydesteve | 05.18.2007 | 11:25 am
Spare masterlink, hunk of chain, & chain breaker if the multitool does not have it. And maybe this is just a roadie thing, I don’t know, but hows about a patch kit? also, since you recently finished converting your hairstyle over to what nature has started, sunblock and/or skull rag for the noggin. Get the kind of sun block that does not drool into your eyes (waterproof) when you sweat. Really. Extra pair of socks.
God bless!
Steve
Comment by Steve | 05.18.2007 | 11:30 am
The “to get†list is stuff that I still need to buy. Money is strangly on that list. Makes me wonder what you will tender for the money you wish to “buy”
As for something you might wish you had during the race: another pair of legs to do some of the pedaling when your’s are beat.
Comment by Den | 05.18.2007 | 11:32 am
Just have a great ride! Oh yea, if you do take chamois cream. Spalm with care!
Yea, I said it…
someone had to….
have fun!
Comment by Mrs. Coach | 05.18.2007 | 11:33 am
You’re going to buy water? C’mon, its not like you live in Magna.
If you have much problems with cramping you’ll want to bring some electrolite tablets. They’ll really help your muscles out. I’d also suggest bringing some flares…just in case.
This is self-supported right?
Bob should be emailing you with some tips before too long if he hasn’t already.
Comment by Mrs. Coach | 05.18.2007 | 11:34 am
You’re going to buy water? C’mon, its not like you live in Magna.
If you have much problems with cramping you’ll want to bring some electrolite tablets. They’ll really help your muscles out. I’d also suggest bringing some flares…just in case.
This is self-supported right?
Bob should be emailing you with some tips before too long if he hasn’t already.
Oh, and give Brad a break, he was just following orders.
Comment by Mrs. Coach | 05.18.2007 | 11:36 am
Oh, and give Brad a break, he was under professional duress.
Comment by Tom | 05.18.2007 | 11:37 am
Use the duct-tape to tie a portable DVD player onto your bars. I’d recommend you then play ‘The Best of Monty Python’s Flying Circus’ on a repeating loop for the entire route. You will be so happy floating on a sea of pythonesque insanity you won’t notice if you crash, or even finish the race.
Alright, so maybe it’s not the most workable of ideas. It’s the thought that counts.
Comment by Tom | 05.18.2007 | 11:37 am
Use the duct-tape to tie a portable DVD player onto your bars. I’d recommend you then play ‘The Best of Monty Python’s Flying Circus’ on a repeating loop for the entire route. You will be so happy floating on a sea of pythonesque insanity you won’t notice if you crash, or even finish the race.
Alright, so maybe it’s not the most workable of ideas. It’s the thought that counts.
Comment by Tom | 05.18.2007 | 11:38 am
Use the duct-tape to tie a portable DVD player onto your bars. I’d recommend you then play ‘The Best of Monty Python’s Flying Circus’ on a repeating loop for the entire route. You will be so happy floating on a sea of pythonesque insanity you won’t notice if you crash, or even finish the race.
Alright, so maybe it’s not the most workable of ideas. It’s the thought that counts.
Comment by Tom | 05.18.2007 | 11:38 am
Use the duct-tape to tie a portable DVD player onto your bars. I’d recommend you then play ‘The Best of Monty Python’s Flying Circus’ on a repeating loop for the entire route. You will be so happy floating on a sea of pythonesque insanity you won’t notice if you crash, or even finish the race.
Alright, so maybe it’s not the most workable of ideas. It’s the thought that counts.
Comment by Tom | 05.18.2007 | 11:38 am
Use the duct-tape to tie a portable DVD player onto your bars. I’d recommend you then play ‘The Best of Monty Python’s Flying Circus’ on a repeating loop for the entire route. You will be so happy floating on a sea of pythonesque insanity you won’t notice if you crash, or even finish the race.
Alright, so maybe it’s not the most workable of ideas. It’s the thought that counts.
Comment by Mrs. Coach | 05.18.2007 | 11:38 am
Great, my computer was being slow and now I look like a dip.
Comment by DOM | 05.18.2007 | 11:40 am
Flare gun. The obvious use is to summon help. The subtle use is to hunt and cook Boz’s rattlesnake in one efficient step, this is a race after all.
Ride it like you stole it, Fatty.
Comment by Tom (again) | 05.18.2007 | 11:40 am
I seem to have posted the same message twice! It was an accident, not an action I envisaged in any way to emphasize the coolness of my suggestion. Honestly. ;-p
Comment by Mrs. Coach | 05.18.2007 | 11:41 am
Sweet, looks like i’m not the only one!
Comment by Tom (again, for the last time. I promise) | 05.18.2007 | 11:43 am
What is going on?! It’s posted it 5 times now?! My computer scares me.
Comment by LanterneRouge | 05.18.2007 | 12:07 pm
You need a digital camera. You’ll get some pretty good shots of kenny dropping you at the beginning of the race and, at the finish, as he salutes your arrival from the comfort of his massage table (kindly provided by mark, of course).
Comment by FliesOnly | 05.18.2007 | 12:12 pm
Ah yes, Cake…they certainly do put out more than a few tunes worth riding to, don’t they. Oddly enough, I am currently planning on a solo century road ride tomorrow and was “charging” my MP3 player as I read your blog. Plenty of Cake and other riding goodies.
PS: The head set is a great addition to your bike.
Comment by chtrich | 05.18.2007 | 12:30 pm
Perhaps not a lot of service available, but a cell phone is always wise to pack.
Have a great ride!! Looking forward to reading all about it next week.
Comment by chtrich | 05.18.2007 | 12:34 pm
and knee warmers…………classic, just classic.
Comment by mark | 05.18.2007 | 12:53 pm
Haven’t been able to procure a massage table, unfortunately. Kenny will have to make due laying across my Dakine pickup pad and my grubby hands instead of a professional. If that still sounds appealing, bear in mind I’ll be using Park polylube instead of massage oil. I asked my wife if she’d step up and take on massage duties, and her response was “who killed Kenny?”
We will be barbecuing in the parking lot while we wait for Elden to arrive. Kenny may have to wait for his hot dog, though, because we’re riding slickrock first, and he’s fast enough that he’ll probably finish before we do.
Look for the black Tundra with the barbecue grill in the back. Botched, you’re welcome to hang out with us and ride with us for that matter while you wait for Kenny and Elden. I’ll PM you my cell phone number if you want to track me down.
Comment by rz | 05.18.2007 | 12:54 pm
Good Luck, Fatty -
Ride like hell and don’t look back.
Knee Warmers? Really? How about some Ravioli from Borghatti’s in the Bronx? I’ll send some.
Comment by Clydesdale | 05.18.2007 | 1:10 pm
This may be reduntant with the Pink King set and all but something from Susan and the kids, a photo maybe, you’ll have plenty of time to appreciate them.
Oh, and a second set of legs would probably help about this time tomorrow :)
Comment by allan | 05.18.2007 | 1:12 pm
Fatty-Good luck!!!! Your my hero for even trying this.
Comment by LeMyke | 05.18.2007 | 1:16 pm
How about a floor pump in the car to top up your tires before the race?
Comment by Caren | 05.18.2007 | 1:20 pm
Is it possible to do an epic race like this on only shot blocks and honey stingers? My stomach would be in total reject mode within several hours and you don’t want me to describe the day after effects!
I’d suggest slicing a cinnamon raisin bagel in half; put Nutella on one half and peanut butter on the other. Slam the halves together, shove it into a ziploc and toss it into the camel bak. Several hours later when you want/need some real sustenance it will be warm ready to be shoved into the pie hole. Almost no chewing required! You might want to take more than one – they don’t take up much space and the more smooshed they are the better! Other easily ingested things I’ve used on long/endurance activities bread with honey (fold in half and put in ziploc – again the more smooshed the better) and fig newtons.
I agree the advil should be a MUST!!
Have a great ride! in 24 hours I’ll have a burrito with some awesome NM green chile and think about you will I savor every bite!
Caren.
Comment by UncleFred | 05.18.2007 | 1:42 pm
A homing Pigeon, dang Cell Phones can be pretty iffy. Plus once the sanity takes a day drip to happyville you’ll have someone to talk too, I call mine Derek.
Comment by MAJ Mike | 05.18.2007 | 1:48 pm
How far is this? Damn. I would take along someone else to ride the bike.
Comment by wndnh2o | 05.18.2007 | 1:54 pm
A wing and a prayer ;}
Ride Pretty & Strong, Fatty!
Comment by ming | 05.18.2007 | 2:18 pm
150 miles part of which in the heat. id bring a snot rag.
good luck!
Comment by Andrew | 05.18.2007 | 2:24 pm
Unless you think you can find some decent plants to wipe your ass with id pack some spare toilet paper and a ziplock bag to keep it in. an energy bar wrapper as toilet paper is just a bad idea, and wasting a dollar bill on your crack is even worse.
Comment by Lins - Australia | 05.18.2007 | 2:54 pm
I’ve changed my mind since my comments the other day on “Respectful Sacrifice”. I really would be too a-feared to do a race like this especially after reading Dug’s comments above: it’s about 90 miles too long for me.
I’d freeze one of my hydration pack bladders and drink it when it was at it’s best temperature even before I’d finished the unfrozen bladder. At least you get part of the ride with a cool drink.
Good luck FC. And Kenny.
Comment by salex | 05.18.2007 | 2:55 pm
knee warmers are stupid!
Comment by UltraRob | 05.18.2007 | 3:01 pm
Andrews toilet paper comment is excellent! Why didn’t I think of that? One time when I was doing the 24 Hours of Moab solo, I really, really needed some toilet paper in the pitch dark around 2 in the morning. For those that have done that course, I was on the ridge just before you start dropping down on the back side. I really didn’t know what I was going to do. I really didn’t need to do anything to make it harder to sit on the saddle for another 10 hours. Then a miracle happened! Someone had their tools in an old tube sock. It had fallen on the trail. Even though the Crank Bros mult-tool ended up being my favorite, it was only a bonus. It was the sock that I cared about.
Comment by bikemike | 05.18.2007 | 5:02 pm
duct tape could work as knee warmers, i’m just sayin’. why take extra stuff?
when you listen to cake, does the chocolate get in your ears? can you take cake and eat it too?
Comment by msk | 05.18.2007 | 5:21 pm
yep, i agree with ultrarob and andrew – toilet paper
you are out there for perhaps 18 hours and given your almost legendary lack of intestinal fortitude, i would say it qualifies as an essential
in fact why not treat yourself – a wee prepacked bag of moist wipes would be just perfect
but then in a pinch you do have the knee warmers (alternate use #237)
and under no circumstance try and substitute the duct tape
also a healthy disregard for you own personal safety is always a must on epic rides – but then you have signed up for a 142 mile self suported mtb race so you appear to have that in abundance
good luck – i have a feeling you might suprise yourself (in a good way) – and i am seldom (if ever) wrong
cheers
msk
Comment by Al Maviva | 05.18.2007 | 6:29 pm
I’d pack a turkey sandwich, whole wheat, mayo, salt and pepper, tomato, and some lettuce.
Yeah, sure, odds on the thing is going to give you food poisoning. But the projectile vomiting and diarrhea won’t set in until a few hours after you’ve finished, and do you have any idea how good a turkey/whole wheat with mayo and extra salt tastes after 12 hours of riding? Heck, I’d probably let you hit my thumb with a hammer at that point in a ride. Plus, it’s not like some explosive liquid action at both ends is going to figure prominently on your PainRadar scale after that kind of a ride… it would be the least of your problems.
Good luck, Rotund Roller.
Comment by jill | 05.18.2007 | 7:17 pm
Have a great ride! Can’t wait to hear all about it!
Comment by Born 4 Lycra | 05.18.2007 | 10:24 pm
In the to bring list I can’t see bike. Is that too obvious?
I’m sure that you would have told us but is there any chance you may be in the soon to be released, blasted worldwide FC Top?
Rotund Roller love it. Go for it and above all have fun.
Comment by Born 4 Lycra | 05.18.2007 | 10:29 pm
For the English Football supporters on the list I had a sudden urge to start chanting “there is only one Tom says” having read the same message 5 times but it does quite work. Kenny/Mark any chance of a photo of the legend finishing? You have fun too Kenny.
Comment by Born 4 Lycra | 05.18.2007 | 10:31 pm
P.S. Kenny you have fun too and Mark/Kenny any chance of a photo of the legend finishing?
Comment by Born 4 Lycra | 05.18.2007 | 11:24 pm
Oh Bo**o*ks now I’m doing it.
As a matter of interest I reckon it has been mentioned before but is anyone else finding they have to log into FC twice because it all freezes up the first time?
Comment by buckythedonkey | 05.19.2007 | 1:52 am
What? No spare cleat?
In the space of about a fortnight, a little under a year ago, read 2 stories about cleat trouble. One concerned your good self falling off your carbon wunderbike in front of some gun-toting redneck in a pick-up. I’m pretty sure that I read the other on this site too – somebody losing a cleat bolt during the Leadville race.
Those stories convinced me to pack a spare SPD cleat when we rode the South Downs Way last September and what do you know, after a year free of cleat problems, one of the guys ends up with a loose cleat and, in the ensuing panic, manages to lose a cleat bolt.
That would have been a whole lot of hassle for want of a tiny wee bolt.
Since then I always carry a spare cleat. Hey, it only weighs a few grammes. I carry it with about 15 kilos of other Things That I Might Need That Weigh Only A Few Grammes.
Comment by buckythedonkey | 05.19.2007 | 1:55 am
Fatty: can we have a jersey update please? It’s 4 weeks to the L2B(2L) and I was rather hoping to be wearing orange.
Comment by Big Boned | 05.19.2007 | 3:13 am
Fatty,
Sending some good Karma your way right now. I’ve done 24 hour solos before and I know that these hours are the hardest (from a mental standpoint). Keep them turning!
BB
Comment by Rob | 05.19.2007 | 4:05 am
Not sure if you’ve been to cake’s site recently but they just released a Rarities/B’sides album now that they are back on their own label, leading off with War Pigs (Awesome job on it, saw em live last week). Plus if you order it the cover is scratch and sniff in one of 4 flavors.
I’d definetly add some matches in a ziploc/waterproof matches. A heavy needle and some high quality floss for sidewall repair.
Good luck man, and remember comedies aren’t good on long rides! :)
Comment by bici beeyatch | 05.19.2007 | 6:08 am
i think a little black eyed peas goes well with cake.
plus you might want to tap into some of jens voight’s special mojo if you feel yourself flagging. that dude never stops! if dug, botched and rick s. (not his real name) all wimped on you it’s a sure sign this ride is no piece of er, Cake. good luck and be sure to tell us about all the food you scarf after the ride!
Comment by Rick S | 05.19.2007 | 6:12 am
after hearing the tape worm story during the White Rim Ride, I couldn’t get past the thought of filtering water from a pond full of cow poop on the KTR. I’ll take my D+. In fact, I’ll take my D+ while drinking a nice cold diet coke, reading this post and getting ready to pre-ride the race course for next week’s mtb race here in own back yard (Draper).
I don’t know Fish that well. I met him on the White Rim Ride but he gets 2 points from me on the cool guy factor.
Comment by Rick S | 05.19.2007 | 6:13 am
after hearing the tape worm story during the White Rim Ride, I couldn’t get past the thought of filtering water from a pond full of cow poop on the KTR. I’ll take my D+. In fact, I’ll take my D+ while drinking a nice cold diet coke, reading this post and getting ready to pre-ride the race course for next week’s mtb race here in own back yard (Draper).
I don’t know Fish that well. I met him on the White Rim Ride but he gets 2 points from me on the cool guy factor.
Comment by Lisa B | 05.19.2007 | 10:13 pm
Based on some of the above comments, I’d take at least two of everything.
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portable gps with route list
Yes indeed.